tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7107887.post8299948973544753751..comments2024-03-27T08:37:26.489-04:00Comments on Not Another Episcopal Church Blog: Mary Magdalene and Redemption SongsUndergroundpewsterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10182191422663119484noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7107887.post-21823901252984999352008-07-24T16:53:00.000-04:002008-07-24T16:53:00.000-04:00Well, when confession of sin is optional ...Well, when confession of sin is optional ...Perpetuahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16632860530530786486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7107887.post-44015346595578098862008-07-24T16:43:00.000-04:002008-07-24T16:43:00.000-04:00Perpetua, Do they teach humility in the seminaries...Perpetua, <BR/>Do they teach humility in the seminaries anymore?Undergroundpewsterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10182191422663119484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7107887.post-91469115298569851532008-07-24T13:12:00.000-04:002008-07-24T13:12:00.000-04:00Thank you so much for posting this!!!In the Tramel...Thank you so much for posting this!!!<BR/><BR/>In the Tramel, case, I was very sympathetic to his conversion ... until I saw how closely tied it was with his attempts to gain parole (over the objections of the victim's family).<BR/><BR/>I do believe in forgiveness of sin. But I don't think religion and legal justice should be mixed as in the Tramel case. It would have made sense to me if he had stayed humbly in prison, devoting his life to pastoral care of prisoners or upon release made his mission the care for the homeless (since he was the instigator of the murder of a homeless man).Perpetuahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16632860530530786486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7107887.post-84186547907401726662008-07-23T11:55:00.000-04:002008-07-23T11:55:00.000-04:00Thanks W. and R. This is another one of those subj...Thanks W. and R. <BR/>This is another one of those subjects that will, because of our weaknesses, undoubtedly come up again and again. And when I say weaknesses, I mean to include not only sins, but intellectual and spiritual blinders, bad judgement, and bad systems.Undergroundpewsterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10182191422663119484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7107887.post-45293988285644971272008-07-23T11:27:00.000-04:002008-07-23T11:27:00.000-04:00I've struggled in thinking about what to do when t...I've struggled in thinking about what to do when those in authority have a "past." Clearly, we are all sinners, redeemed by grace. I believe that when/if we acknowledge our sins and truly repent, then we should be allowed to minister as God would have us to do. After all, Christ refused to cast a stone at the woman caught in adultery, but also dismissed her with the admonition to, "sin no more." <BR/><BR/>By the same token, there are those in leadership positions who perhaps refuse to acknowledge the sinfulness of certain behaviors. I think of the worship leader who has divorced and remarried, for example. If we believe the Bible, such behavior constitutes adultery. Clearly, there is no desire to repent. How then can we allow that person to have a position of authority.<BR/><BR/>I suppose, I guess that there are some things which should disqualify a person from a leadership role. Otherwise, we begin to confuse grace and forgiveness with our own narcissism.<BR/><BR/>Cheers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7107887.post-21237882985841690522008-07-23T08:59:00.000-04:002008-07-23T08:59:00.000-04:00Redeemed!Redeemed!Wallace H. Hartleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10875194553761947686noreply@blogger.com