tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7107887.post358514123398798461..comments2024-03-27T08:37:26.489-04:00Comments on Not Another Episcopal Church Blog: Why Care about the Bishop Election?Undergroundpewsterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10182191422663119484noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7107887.post-25903867230054042982009-05-27T12:11:56.309-04:002009-05-27T12:11:56.309-04:00Having worked in parishes in Massachusetts before ...Having worked in parishes in Massachusetts before moving to Buffalo, NY, it took me some time to get used to the fact that parishes here have two Wardens and neither is designated as Sr. or Jr. and it doesn't matter!Daniel Weirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11430381764138066595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7107887.post-59945521423978090062009-05-24T11:36:23.331-04:002009-05-24T11:36:23.331-04:00These are all reasons we left the Episcopal church...These are all reasons we left the Episcopal church. It really isn't all that Christian any more. We felt we might as well just join a Rotary Club or other service organization if that's the way the church was going.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7107887.post-36783764674045943052009-05-22T23:27:49.955-04:002009-05-22T23:27:49.955-04:00Taking away a Baptist name isn't too hard. Baptist...Taking away a Baptist name isn't too hard. Baptists aren't all that hung up on names. Just ask Rick Warren.Agnikanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00494537340737199409noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7107887.post-51652049358126628282009-05-21T16:16:23.864-04:002009-05-21T16:16:23.864-04:00Thanks, I updated tghe links, they must have chang...Thanks, I updated tghe links, they must have changed something in the past few days.Undergroundpewsterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10182191422663119484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7107887.post-1484382349083639122009-05-21T15:31:28.737-04:002009-05-21T15:31:28.737-04:00I could not get the links to work for the graphs. ...I could not get the links to work for the graphs. However by going just to http://12.0.101.92/Charts.aspx<br />I could then access charts for all dioceses and churches.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7107887.post-54634569017989985852009-05-20T20:53:38.924-04:002009-05-20T20:53:38.924-04:00What we see at the Church of the Redeemer in Morri...What we see at the Church of the Redeemer in Morristown NJ is a direct result of the liberal strategy of anti-Christian "Christian" dialogue. Talk away until every baby is killed, every altar smashed, every Christian dogma buried and every Episcopalian leaves the pews in disgust.<br /><br />The fundamental dogma of the liberal (as seen in Morristown) is:<br />bow down before the god of myself.<br /><br />Right thinking Christians understand that the disingenuous call to dialogue about unchangeable truths like same sex marriage--which is only one example--is a fruitless endeavor that exposes the souls of Christians to mortal danger. There is no real dialogue from the liberals. They simply drone on and simper until they prevail. And they seek to take souls down with them. Enough. The time is ripe to choose sides, for or against timeless truths.<br /><br />We need bishops, priests and lay people who have the backbone and intestinal fortitude to stand up for Christ. We absolutely need leadership from our shepherds. The flock is under attack from within. The wolves are rampant. Their clothing may be low-grade polyester, augmented with oven mitts, but they are as dangerous as the Arians.<br /><br />How many times must we sound the alarm about the scourge of the modernists? When will we own up to the ecclesiastical disaster of the twentieth century? When will we respond to Christ's call to repair the damage? When will we stand up and be counted?<br /><br />They are sucking the life out of Christ's Church. When will we get serious about resisting them? The election of a new bishop seems an opportune time.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08890870828860228480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7107887.post-29151742822862166252009-05-20T20:12:49.184-04:002009-05-20T20:12:49.184-04:00Oops, I meant "Canons" not Constitution.Oops, I meant "Canons" not Constitution.Undergroundpewsterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10182191422663119484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7107887.post-76280873521075726942009-05-20T20:08:24.901-04:002009-05-20T20:08:24.901-04:00The Bishop of the Diocese is the power broker.
In...The Bishop of the Diocese is the power broker.<br /><br />In the <A HREF="http://www.edusc.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=76&Itemid=42" REL="nofollow">Constitution of the Episcopal Diocese of Upper South Carolina</A> we read, <br /><br />SECTION 9. It shall be the special duty of the Wardens to provide whatever may be necessary for the due celebration of divine worship (as books, vestments, etc.); also for the decency and comfort of the church buildings and furniture, books for church records, and the elements of The Holy Eucharist, and to put down all disorder during public worship. ... and <I><B>they may report to the Bishop any irregularities in the mode of conducting public worship, and all offenses by their Clergy,</B></I> or by any other officiating in behalf of their Clergy, against Rubrics or Canons, faith or morals. <br /><br />SECTION 10. The pastoral connections shall not be dissolved except as provided for by the Canons of the General Convention. <br /><br />SECTION 11. When a Parish is vacant, it shall be the duty of the Vestry to notify the Bishop of the fact, and also to elect and invite a Rector, <I><B>but not without due regard to the ascertained wishes of the congregation, and the opinion and advice of the Bishop.</B></I> <br /><br />Now what would happen if a Baptist congregation were to go off the deep end like the Episcopal Church of the Redeemer in Morristown NJ has done? Who takes away their Baptist name?Undergroundpewsterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10182191422663119484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7107887.post-63152384011065562932009-05-20T19:32:52.064-04:002009-05-20T19:32:52.064-04:00That is a strong suit of the Baptists.
If I'm not...That is a strong suit of the Baptists.<br /><br />If I'm not mistaken, Orthodox churches have a combination of episcopal authority and congregational polity. A parish can raise cane to the Bishop and get rid of a priest in the unfortunate event such an action is required; and I think a diocese can request the dismissal of a wayward bishop. <br /><br />I didn't hang long enough with TEC to understand its politics, but is it similar?Chuck Hickshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01929470338280066656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7107887.post-18979590181348012642009-05-20T10:10:58.665-04:002009-05-20T10:10:58.665-04:00There are times when I'm really glad we have congr...There are times when I'm really glad we have congregational polity in the Baptist denomination. We don't have to worry about pronouncements from on high about the nature of faith. We are responsible as a congregation to each other to preserve what's true and right, postmodern trends notwithstanding.<br /><br />Cheers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com