Profile of Conservative Upper South Carolina

Part of the process in searching for a new Bishop is the creation of a profile of the Diocese that the candidates can peruse as they decide whether or not to accept the call. Also the search committee may use this information (or not) when culling the herd of candidates. Please note, you have until July 3 to submit a candidate's name. Please make sure the candidate agrees to run. The profile is found here and looks pretty slick. Buried in there is this teaser:

"The clergy were more supportive of statements about same gender issues facing our church; however, the majority of both clergy and laity opposes same gender marriages. Although, we have diversity and some disagreement over sexuality..."

There may be a disconnect between the clergy and laity, but you won't find those stats in the published survey data.

Encourage your candidate to study the results of the survey. The survey results of the EDUSC can be found here, but I have posted the questions and responses in a blogger friendly format (with a few personal comments in red).

When there appears to be a clear voice in an answer, reread the question to look for ill defined terms that might be subject to interpretation. Example, see Q. 27 below.

When responses are evenly split, one person may declare this a sign of "diversity" while the next person may point to underlying "conflict." Example, see Q. 16 below.

When "No opinion" shows up a significant choice, go over that question again and ask yourself "Why?" Could it be that these issues have not been brought to the laity's attention? Examples Qs. 3 and 9 below.

Okay, enough preview, let's dive in.

Number of Responses: 2051

Gender: Male 44% Female 55% Refused 1%

Gender refused?

1. Our diocese should encourage and support
domestic and foreign outreach programs.

64 % Strongly Agree
31 % Somewhat Agree
2 % No Opinion
2 % Somewhat Disagree
1 % Strongly Disagree

This seems like a softball, no brainer question. Maybe it was in there just for validation purposes.

2. We are effective at evangelizing and bringing
the un-churched to God.

6 % Strongly Agree
35 % Somewhat Agree
13 % No Opinion
36 % Somewhat Disagree
10 % Strongly Disagree

I am surprised that 6% strongly agree with this one. I would have guessed <1%

3. Within our diocese, we effectively identify
locations for new missions and congregations.

7 % Strongly Agree
25 % Somewhat Agree
42 % No Opinion
18 % Somewhat Disagree
8 % Strongly Disagree

I am sure that the bonehead approval of the site for St. Matthias in Rock Hill was unknown to most of the respondants. Count me in the 8%.

4. In these troubled times, the Church (both at
the diocesan level and at the national level)
should do all in its power to ease the financial
demands on congregations.

29 % Strongly Agree
41 % Somewhat Agree
12 % No Opinion
15 % Somewhat Disagree
3 % Strongly Disagree

But how? Maybe do away with Episcopal Pravda or the lawsuits that the Episcopal Church (DIE-C) is engaging in against departing dioceses.

5. Our diocese is of one mind in matters of
theology, faith, tradition, liturgy, music, etc.

10 % Strongly Agree
27 % Somewhat Agree
9 % No Opinion
35 % Somewhat Disagree
19 % Strongly Disagree

We are definitely not of one mind based on this response. We must be schizophrenic.

6. The range of available worship styles /
liturgies, including music, offered in my parish
is satisfactory.

58 % Strongly Agree
30 % Somewhat Agree
3 % No Opinion
8 % Somewhat Disagree
1 % Strongly Disagree

Like moths to a light, people attend where there is a worship style that attracts them.

7. The variety of worship traditions in this
diocese should be consistent with the Book of
Common Prayer.

55 % Strongly Agree
33 % Somewhat Agree
6 % No Opinion
6 % Somewhat Disagree

But what if they rewrite the BCP?

8. Our parish youth programs offer
opportunities for learning, for participating in
the life of the parish and for meeting other
youth in our diocese.

37 % Strongly Agree
32 % Somewhat Agree
19 % No Opinion
9 % Somewhat Disagree
3 % Strongly Disagree

9. Currently, many of our parish teenagers are
participating in non-Episcopalian- sponsored
youth programs.

11 % Strongly Agree
25 % Somewhat Agree
53 % No Opinion
9 % Somewhat Disagree
2 % Strongly Disagree

Don't ask don't tell.

10. Our bishop should be an advocate for the
well-being of clergy, particularly with regard to
their need for adequate compensation and
benefits.

53 % Strongly Agree
36 % Somewhat Agree
7 % No Opinion
3 % Somewhat Disagree
1 % Strongly Disagree

11. We effectively support and retain ordained
clergy.

29 % Strongly Agree
40 % Somewhat Agree
19 % No Opinion
10 % Somewhat Disagree
2 % Strongly Disagree

12. We effectively recruit, train, ordain and
assign deacons within the diocese.

16 % Strongly Agree
29 % Somewhat Agree
38 % No Opinion
12 % Somewhat Disagree
5 % Strongly Disagree

A lot of no ops there. Maybe they are thinking, "What's a Deacon?"

13. The diocese would benefit from having a
bishop who has an understanding of the cultural
dynamics of South Carolina.

58 % Strongly Agree
31 % Somewhat Agree
6 % No Opinion
4 % Somewhat Disagree
1 % Strongly Disagree

A Bishop who understands Carolina b-b-que.

14. It is important for the Episcopal Church to
remain in the Anglican Communion.

69 % Strongly Agree
20 % Somewhat Agree
7 % No Opinion
4 % Somewhat Disagree

Uh oh, don't let 815 know about this or we will all be sent to the reeducation camp (Kanuga).

15. Our current Bishop and the diocese, in
convention, have affirmed that we are a
Windsor Diocese. In that light, I believe our
next bishop should be supportive of the
Windsor Report and the ongoing Windsor
process.

48 % Strongly Agree
20 % Somewhat Agree
26 % No Opinion
4 % Somewhat Disagree
2 % Strongly Disagree

Make your reservation for the next train to Hendersonville.

16. I support the blessing of civil unions (as
opposed to marriage) between gay and lesbian
persons in the Episcopal Church.

26 % Strongly Agree
19 % Somewhat Agree
8 % No Opinion
10 % Somewhat Disagree
37 % Strongly Disagree

That was close. Send Louie and +Gene down and see if they can straighten us out.

17. I support the ordination of partnered gay
and lesbian persons in the Episcopal Church.

21 % Strongly Agree
12 % Somewhat Agree
7 % No Opinion
12 % Somewhat Disagree
48 % Strongly Disagree

Uh oh, in that case, don't send +Gene.

18. I believe the Holy Scriptures of the Old and
New Testaments to be the Word of God, and to
contain all things necessary for salvation.

62 % Strongly Agree
24 % Somewhat Agree
4 % No Opinion
7 % Somewhat Disagree
3 % Strongly Disagree

Cool, an 86% pass rate.


19. Divisiveness in the wider Church is
beginning to cause problems in our diocese.

27 % Strongly Agree
42 % Somewhat Agree
16 % No Opinion
12 % Somewhat Disagree
3 % Strongly Disagree

The "All is well" tactic is not working in upper SC.

20. I believe the current problems within our
denomination should be resolved by reasonable
negotiation between and among the various
constituencies.

40 % Strongly Agree
39 % Somewhat Agree
8 % No Opinion
8 % Somewhat Disagree
5 % Strongly Disagree

Should be, but can they be resolved?

21. I support the marriage of gay and lesbian
persons in the Episcopal Church.

17 % Strongly Agree
11 % Somewhat Agree
7 % No Opinion
12 % Somewhat Disagree
53 % Strongly Disagree

Uh, oh... Katie ain't gonna like that.

22. All persons should be welcome to receive
Holy Communion regardless of whether or not
they have been baptized.

24 % Strongly Agree
17 % Somewhat Agree
6 % No Opinion
23 % Somewhat Disagree
30 % Strongly Disagree

Whoa... 41% might fall for open communion? Looks like a blog post is needed.

23. Gender is not an issue for me in the context
of ordination to the priesthood.

73 % Strongly Agree
14 % Somewhat Agree
3 % No Opinion
5 % Somewhat Disagree
5 % Strongly Disagree

Female clerics can rest assured.

24. Being divorced and remarried should be a
consideration in the selection of our next
bishop.

16 % Strongly Agree
23 % Somewhat Agree
17 % No Opinion
19 % Somewhat Disagree
25 % Strongly Disagree

A big split on divorced Bishops. I guess we have not read 1 Timothy 3:1-13 have we?

25. I believe the Nicene Creed is a sufficient
statement of Christian faith.

59 % Strongly Agree
30 % Somewhat Agree
4 % No Opinion
5 % Somewhat Disagree
2 % Strongly Disagree

Hooray!

26. I accept the theology and doctrine found in
An Outline of Faith: The Catechism (Book of
Common Prayer, pp. 845-862).

63 % Strongly Agree
26 % Somewhat Agree
9 % No Opinion
2 % Somewhat Disagree

How can you have no opinion?

27. Our next bishop should always stand on
Christian principles, even if he stands alone.

70 % Strongly Agree
21 % Somewhat Agree
6 % No Opinion
2 % Somewhat Disagree
1 % Strongly Disagree

There is too much wriggle room in this question, what are Christian principles?

28. Our diocese needs leadership that is willing
to consider carrying out its ministry in a more
cost effective manner.

35 % Strongly Agree
40 % Somewhat Agree
20 % No Opinion
4 % Somewhat Disagree
1 % Strongly Disagree

How about stopping the cash drain to 815?

29. I feel parishes should have greater control
over the acquisition / disposition of their
properties.

31 % Strongly Agree
26 % Somewhat Agree
18 % No Opinion
13 % Somewhat Disagree
12 % Strongly Disagree

Uh oh... We could be in big trouble from David Booth Beers and company. I can hear them sharpening their pencils now.

30. I would like our next bishop to be a strong
preacher / orator, fully committed to evangelism
and outreach to the unchurched.

46 % Strongly Agree
39 % Somewhat Agree
9 % No Opinion
6 % Somewhat Disagree

Danger, danger, Will Robinson, the "E" word!

31. Our next bishop should understand and
support traditional liturgies as set forth in the
Book of Common Prayer.

66 % Strongly Agree
27 % Somewhat Agree
4 % No Opinion
3 % Somewhat Disagree

Thew Forrester+ need not apply.

32. It would be desirable for the next bishop to
make a tangible effort to bring the Gospel to the
issue of race relations in South Carolina.

38 % Strongly Agree
36 % Somewhat Agree
16 % No Opinion
6 % Somewhat Disagree
4 % Strongly Disagree

Jerimiah Wright need not apply.

33. Diocesan communications keep me
adequately informed as an Episcopalian.

24 % Strongly Agree
45 % Somewhat Agree
11 % No Opinion
15 % Somewhat Disagree
5 % Strongly Disagree

Count me in the 5%, "Crosswalk" is Pravda lite.

34. Our next bishop needs to commit time,
talent and treasure to re-energize the diocesan
commitment to the mission in Cange, Haiti, and
other outreach missions of our diocese.

29 % Strongly Agree
43 % Somewhat Agree
17 % No Opinion
9 % Somewhat Disagree
2 % Strongly Disagree

Way to go, but where's the dough?

35. Our diocese welcomes those of all races and
different national origins.

49 % Strongly Agree
37 % Somewhat Agree
6 % No Opinion
7 % Somewhat Disagree
1 % Strongly Disagree

So where are they?

36. Maintaining unity and focus on mission
within our diocese is important.

59 % Strongly Agree
35 % Somewhat Agree
3 % No Opinion
2 % Somewhat Disagree
1 % Strongly Disagree

Watch out people, that "focus on mission" might be interpreted as secular utopianism which can take away from spreading the Gospel.

People were asked to rank the five (5) Most Important Issues/Opportunities in this diocese:

Programs for children and youth 58.80 %
Programs that minister to multiple generations 48.72 %
Declining membership 48.13 %
Evangelism and outreach with sensitivity to our changing demographics 44.99 %
Recruiting, training, developing, ordaining and retaining clergy 43.46 %

People were asked to rank the five (5) Most Important Strengths/Characteristics of a new bishop:

Integrity 62.37 %
Deeply spiritual and prayerful 49.63 %
Possesses sound judgment and wisdom 48.51 %
Commitment to the traditional creeds of the Christian Church (e.g. Nicene Creed) 34.49 %
Compassionate 29.54 %

In summary, this pewster concludes that this is a conservative Diocese that with a little better leadership and education could become a shining light to the rest of the Church. Any takers out there?

I've Looked at Both Sides

In today's sermon, the rector posed the question "What is the Kingdom of God." He posed this question because when Jesus spoke of the Kingdom, as He did in today's Gospel reading, he spoke in parables. Rather than expound on the parable of the mustard seed, the rector left us with the, "What does that mean?" question that the disciples were often left with. I suppose this leaves the parables as objets d'art, subject to individual interpretation. After listening to interpretations, people tend to take sides. This leads to conflict.

I thought, "What does lack of interpretation lead to?"

The rector then used the unfortunate example of the murder of the abortionist, Dr. Tiller, to make the point of the problems with "belief systems." Belief systems are considered a problem by James P. Carse the author of "The Religious Case Against Belief" which is being studied by the adult Sunday school class, so it is no surprise that some of his ideas might work their way into the Sunday sermon. It should also come as no surprise when the rector referred to the "good Dr. Tiller" during the course of the sermon, thus revealing a certain underlying belief system that the rector himself has fallen for.

We were then given a homework assignment which is to try to see where those with whom we disagree are coming from. IMO, this type of exercise is usually inflicted upon those on "the right" by those on "the left" in order to further the "leftward drift" of whatever particular subject is up for "discussion."

I see where you are coming from, and I ain't going to meet you there.

(Joni Mitchell 1970)

"Rows and floes of angel hair
And ice cream castles in the air
And feather canyons everywhere
I've looked at clouds that way

But now they only block the sun
They rain and snow on everyone
So many things I would have done
But clouds got in my way
I've looked at clouds from both sides now
From up and down, and still somehow
Its cloud illusions I recall
I really don't know clouds at all

Moons and Junes and Ferris wheels
The dizzy dancing way you feel
As every fairy tale comes real
I've looked at love that way

But now it's just another show
You leave em laughing when you go
And if you care, don't let them know
Don't give yourself away

I've looked at love from both sides now
From give and take, and still somehow
Its Love's illusions I recall
I really don't know Love at all

Tears and fears and feeling proud
To say I love you right out loud
Dreams and schemes and circus crowds
I've looked at life that way

But now old friends are acting strange
They shake their heads, they say I've changed
Well something's lost, but something's gained
In living every day

I've looked at life from both sides now
From win and lose and still somehow
Its life's illusions I recall
I really don't know life at all
I've looked at life from both sides now
From up and down, and still somehow
Its life's illusions I recall
I really don't know life at all"

Born Again

(Ipomoea violacea or Morning Glory)


A kindly soul sent me a link to the Trinity Day sermon by retired Bishop Charles Duvall given at St. John's Episcopal Church in Columbia on 06/07/2009. The link should be good for the next couple of years, but if it should fail, contact their webmaster by clicking here.

If you have never heard Bishop Duvall's wonderful southern accent, you are in for either a real treat or a rude cultural shock.

You may listen to Bishop Duvall's sermon by clicking here. The sermon is 18 minutes in length, and try to listen uninterrupted. I had a long interruption and it would not reload (a Windows Media Player error popped up). I had to go to the St. John's web page and reload it from there!

I love the way he uses the story of Nicodemus to tie his sermon's beginning and ending together. Thank you Bishop Duvall.

Thank you fellow Christian for sending this to restore my spirit and to help me to once again rejoice in the glory of God.

This song came to mind after listening to the sermon. Call me crazy, but I know there is a little Trinitarian truth buried in it somewhere.

"In you love, I have all that
I need for
Survival
With your love I have all that
I need for
Survival
With our love we have all that
We need for
Survival"

The Moody Blues "Survival" (Octave)

Twittering

Blame Greg Griffith at SF for this, but I went ahead and got a Twitter account. You can find me as "Pewster." How come I am not surprised that the name was available?

Blame Baby Blue for using the twitterfeed feature on me which somehow works with Blogger. I will get her back for that; if I can figure out how to do the same to her!

Gotta go, workin on tomorrow's blog y'all.

Don't Mess With My Lorica

Today I am at a loss. A loss of hope, a loss of heritage, a loss of my breastplate, a loss for words. I didn't start the day off like this, but something happened during the course of the morning service at ECOOS to leave me with this hurt, empty feeling.

We started the service off with "St. Patrick's Breastplate or Lorica," Hymn 370, which got my heart pumping. Mind you, we did not sing the missing verses that Wallace Hartley posted back in March, but even the watered down version should have had everyone in a hopeful mood for "Trinity Sunday."

I recognized the warning signs of trouble when the rector began his sermon by explaining that he was going to go against 2000 years of thinking about how to talk about the Trinity. At least he is an out of the closet liberal. The ensuing sermon was too painful and confusing to recite, so I will present some personal impressions that are not direct quotations from the liberal diatribe our rector laid on me.

1. The doctrine of the Trinity was not explained. (Because we know that doctrines are bad and lead to narrow mindedness or worse.)

2. Christian thinkers, and those who have been called Christian over the centuries, have taken the Trinity as some sort of weapon into battle to subjugate other religions. (Never mind the notion that the Lorica of which we sang is a defense.)

3. The murderer of the abortionist is evidence of such misapplied fundamentalist theology. (I wonder what the abortionist was evidence of?)

4. Our great President Obama, in his Capitulation at Cairo speech, has shown that we should not speak openly of what we believe, this creedal Christianity, because we are the ones who kill.

4. History doesn't have much good to say about Christianity. (So why be one?)

5. Christians and muslims have killed in the name of God, and this needs to be pounded into my simple brain over and over.

6. I thought I was going to hear about the blessed Trinity today, and maybe learn something. Therefore, hope springs eternal just so it can be squashed.

7. I was left feeling like a Post-modernist Linus, but I will twist the cartoon character's words to read, "I love mankind, it's Christians I can't stand."

8. If today's sermon was intended to build up the body of Christ, it must have intended to do so by purging the the body of believers like me.

9. Days like this are necessary in order that I come up with new intercessory prayers.

Am I alone here? I watched in despair as a young Bible toting couple made a hasty departure after the sermon and before the Eucharist. Did they hear what I heard? Or did they have other business to attend to? Maybe they didn't read the sign, "Check your Bible at the door." If you see such a sign at your church, don't run away. Strap on your Lorica and go onward like a Christian soldier. You might get dashed, bashed, and bruised, but you will be protected from mortal wounds. Besides, you knew the job was dangerous when you took it.


Dear St. Patrick, pray for me...

"Against the demon snares of sin,
the vice that gives temptation force,
the natural lusts that war within,
the hostile men that mar my course;
of few or many, far or nigh,
in every place, and in all hours
against their fierce hostility,
I bind to me these holy powers.

Against all Satan's spells and wiles,
against false words of heresy,
against the knowledge that defiles
against the heart's idolatry,
against the wizard's evil craft,
against the death-wound and the burning
the choking wave and poisoned shaft,
protect me, Christ, till thy returning."

(the expurgated verses)

The Disconnected Clergy

Cruising home the other night from a downtown soiree, I decided to sail past the church. Slowing down in front of Lumpkin Hall, I was startled to see a shadowy figure obscure the light coming from the garth. I anchored, heart pounding, thinking there might be criminal activity. Thinking that this might be a trick of the light, I got out of my land yacht. Armed only with my wireless, and having 911 on speed dial, I crept forward. That is when I heard my name whispered in a dreadful aged tone, "Waaaalllllaccce." I knew at once this must be the elusive Deep Pew. Averting my gaze, I whispered back, "What are you doing here?" Pew made an unintelligible sound and I felt a grizzled hand thrusting papers into my hand. "Look...for...the...disconnect...Go...Now," Pew croaked.

I quickly backed away. Placing myself and the documents into my vessel, a plotted a course for the nearest well lit safe harbor, the parking lot at Bojangles. Glancing over the papers I had been given, I was amazed to find that I had come into possession of the long awaited results of the survey of the members and clergy of the Episcopal Diocese of Upper South Carolina. What did Deep Pew mean by "disconnect?" I am hardly qualified to do a statistical analysis, but as I looked at the survey responses, I wondered if there might be a disconnect between the clergy responses and the responses of the Laity on certain touchy issues. This frightening thought troubled me as I sailed home. Is there a problem here? How can we solve a problem like this? Maybe the clergy will be asking the same question. I could almost hear them singing,

How Do You Solve a Problem Like the Laity?

They arrive at church and bend their knees
Their joints show years of wear
They stagger on their way to Mass
And sometimes miss the stair
Underneath their simple look and blank stare
I even hear them thinking in the nave.

They’re always late for the procession,
And their countenance is dour
They’re always late for meetings
Except for coffee hour.
I hate to have to say it,
But I don't know what to do,
They didn't teach us this in seminary.

I'd like to say a word in their behalf
The Laity makes me laugh.

How do you solve a problem like the Laity?
How do you quiet them and lull them to sleep?
How do you find a word that means the Laity?
The fussbudgets! The congo! The Sheep!

Many a thing we know we'd like to tell them
Many a thing to get them more confused
But how do we make them stay,
And listen to our liberal ways
How do we keep them silent in the pews?

Oh, how do you solve a problem like the Laity?
How do you hold the God fearing in your hand?

When we’re with them we’re confused
Out of focus and bemused,
And we never know exactly where we stand
Adding fire to the fuel
They’re as stubborn as a mule.
They’re darling! They’re conservative! They are lambs!


They’ll outpester any pest,
Focus on the Word and ignore the rest.
They could throw an apostate priest a country mile.
They’re gentle! They are wild!
They’re a riddle! They are mild!
They’re a headache! They are angels!
They’re a trial!

How do you solve a problem like the Laity?
How do you calmly lull them all to sleep?
How do you find a word that means the Laity?
The fussbudgets! The congo! The Sheep!

Many a thing we know we'd like to tell them
Many a thing to get them more confused,
But how do we make them stay
And listen to our liberal ways
How do we keep them silent in the pews?

Oh, how do you solve a problem like the Laity?
How do you hold the God fearing in your hand?

H/t Rodgers and Hammerstein

A DIE-C Acronym

Pre-note: This post was composed before the latest sickening statements came from the new President of the Episcopal Divinity School. I warn you, it is as one commenter said at SF, "sick, sick, SICK, SICK SICK!!!!!" I apologize for merging two apparently disparate threads, but I just cannot, I cannot let it go tonight. For the time being I would ask readers, after they have linked to the above article which I refuse to reprint, for new suggestions for the meaning of the acronym suggested below:




If the Presiding Bishop's plans go through, the Episcopal Church might need to change its name. Once known as ECUSA, then as TEC, I predict we will be called DIE-C or "Decentralized International Episcopal Church." My reasons come from a recent post by Anglicat where she details some of what she learned from the Presiding Bishop of DIE-C's visit to Minnesota.

"During last week's meeting with Minnesota's Episcopal clergy, Presiding Bishop Katharine Schori said she is trying not to use the term 'National Church' any more. She enumerated the offshore members of TEC, including Puerto Rico, Taiwan, Honduras, Ecuador, Haiti, the Dominican Republic, and six countries in Europe. She mentioned the relocation of ministries formerly centered in New York to regional offices around the country, such as Episcopal Migration Ministries to Florida and Ecumenical Affairs, Stewardship, and Ministry in Daily life to Omaha. 'It seemed important to spread staff around the church...to be more present,' Schori explained."

Perhaps there are unmentioned economic reasons to move staff from New York, but could there be political machinations going on as well?

The argument that it is done "to be more present" should put up a warning flag to those communities about to be invaded by dyed in the wool Politburo members. That may be a "presence" you don't want in your back yard.



As a post script I will add my comment to the SF post on the latest insult the Episcopal Church,

Dear Mr. Wormwood,

I started the day off by remembering the martyrs of Lyons. This has inoculated me against your efforts of today. I will not allow the Katherine Ragsdales of the world to distort the meaning of sainthood or martyrdom. Try something else, I am sure that you will.

U.P.

This church is beyond DIE-C meaning "Decentralized International Episcopal Church."

Please join with me in prayer.

Lord have mercy upon us. May the souls in the pews awaken to see the open support of murder of the unborn espoused by their Church, and funded by their money. Lord please help open the ears, minds, hearts, and souls of the future priests of the Church to the cries of Your holy innocents. Lord, we admit our powerlessness in swaying the hardened hearts of those in positions of leadership of Your people. Use Your power to change the hearts of those wearing Your collars of ordination so that they might place their whole trust in You. I pray in the memory of the Blessed Mary who bore You in spite of the shame and scorn and "inconvienience," and grant that I pray in the name of Christ our Lord and Redeemer.